BZP Mafia Discussion

ayy blue footed boobies

oh my

well

well

uhhh

I think we really need to have like

an actual game htat is like By the Birds

imagine identifying a killer correctly by it's call

amazing

EVERY SINGLE MURDER WILL BE COMMITTED BY QUISOVES POTOO

EVIDENCE LISTS CONSISTING ENTIRELY OF MOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Well this has been an interesting wait. 

I'm not even sure what's happening anymore.

Is Ninjago Mafia dead, or...?

I'm not even sure what's happening anymore.

Is Ninjago Mafia dead, or...?

It needs more chemicals to keep going. 

Hey guys, from here on out till one of these  Mafia ends, I'll be working my new series of Mafia. I'll send out more details once I get ready for it's release. At some point once during the production, I'll be transforming them into a story much like Voltex is making the Mafia series into one.

I will tell once more that for the first three, the setting will take place in a city where there is a gang war between two gangs. No one knows the identity of who they are, but the police arr on the hunt for them. The roles of police at night are investigation/arrest(if they are correct). During the day, they will execute upon the people's vote who they will kill for the murders at hand. At that same time at day, gangs can rescue their associates if they want to.

Almost every person in the game will have an important role in the game. Whether it's pro-village, or anti-village, the actions everyone takes will affect the next installment.

I'll also be working with Chro on one of his Mafia ideas.

 gang war between two gangs

*Looks at V: (Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor) with the BoM and DH*

Sounds familiar. =P

We're approaching the point where we shall no longer have any new ideas, and will instead find new and interesting ways to rework old ones.

 

 gang war between two gangs

 

*Looks at V: (Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor) with the BoM and DH*

Sounds familiar. =P

 

*And 2FA*

*Don't forget 2FA*

I may have a new idea.

I may have a new idea.

NO

no new ideas allowed

 

I may have a new idea.

 

NO

 

no new ideas allowed

 

*crushes Voltex with flood of new ideas*

No, seriously, I have at least two, maybe three. 

I have several ideas, but I'm hosting a game right now, and one of them is just downright insane (I'm thinking of trying to do a time loop mafia), so I'll let other people suggest stuff for now.

Oh, man. I had an idea for a time loop mafia years ago and I just now remembered it. Haha. Basically, in mine one Matoran had the Vahi. If they were killed, time would reset and roles were reset. I decided that this took too long, though.

Although making it like Majora's Mask could be cool...

I'm looking forward to when/if we play that!

Red Sea has a new idea in it, which is why it needs a LOT of people to run at all.

Oh, man. I had an idea for a time loop mafia years ago and I just now remembered it. Haha. Basically, in mine one Matoran had the Vahi. If they were killed, time would reset and roles were reset. I decided that this took too long, though.

that sounds too much like Doctor Who

that sounds too much like Doctor Who

TOO MUCH? TOO MUCH? TOO MUCH?

I will say this on the subject of XXI:

EDIT: Redacted Discussion at the request of Portal and I still hate that quote box

SHHHHH RG SHHHH

I like to think the ideas I've had for my Mafia game are relatively new.

But I might be subconsciously copying a game I wasn't in.

 

 

 

 

Hrm, I'd love to participate in this contest but, with hosting Mafia XXII, and all my other school shinnanigans, I don't have the time ...

I might just have to settle for playing the games that entered rather than submitting one myself.

 

It's nice that G&T contests might be start happening, though

I thought Burn was hosting that one.

 

This. lelwut

 

*Snaps fingers*

Oh. Um, I guess I kinda thought I had XXII because I was never able to finish my game, and people agreed on that...

(source)

It's fine though, if you are. Maybe I could host the side game or something.

Just moving this here to avoid filling up the other topic. But I do recall Burn having had the right to XXII for a quite a while, something about a carnival.

In terms of side games I suppose you could, but I was kind of hoping to have a shot at the next side game myself. I can wait though if you really do want to host.

EDIT: And dangit, didn't realize I was the last post. Whoops.

Edit 2: It's okay! I merged the two posts.

-Wind-

Yeah, I'm completely fine with Burn hosting.

I also feel kinda bad for not running with Deaths can Decieve, and I feel obligated (I also want to =P) to finish it in the near future, so if you host the next side game, I'd like the one after that.

Alright, underscore, that sound good to me!

I posted the end of Silence here. I was tired of PMing everybody and wanted to be able to have open discussion without cluttering up this topic so yeah

there you go.

First post updated with a link to XXII~

Can I just say... That was incredibly well played on Fishers' part? I never would have guessed that anything was out of the ordinary, the way she played the killing words. xP

In fact, her death in Ninjago, alongside how things seemed to go for the voting at one point, were the only reasons I suspected her, and it was only after one of the other suspects died that I was certain. >>'

Will there be openings soon?

Will there be openings soon?

XXII just opened up.

I'd grab a spot quickly (link is in the OP of this thread)

1 spot left in XXII.

Who will get it?

apparently valendale

*Snaps fingers*

Since Feudal Kingdoms might be winding down soon... who exactly was wanting to host the next side game? I know there are a few, so I'll add you all into the first post and then perhaps a vote is in order.

First and foremost,  I want Underscore to host his game. Barring that, I'd be eager to see what Arsene can do, seeing as he expressed interest in hosting.

It was pretty much Underscore and Onarax, I do believe.

I feel like Arsene should at least play a game before hosting. =P

I feel like Arsene should at least play a game before hosting. =P

Normally, I 'd agree, but I'm curious to see how a host who has played Mafia, simply not on BZP, would turn out.

I have expressed an interest in hosting a game, but only after I have some degree of experience. I already have some ideas, though. Should I share them or keep them secret?

I should also add that, between the physical world and Roll To Dodge, I may not have as much time as I would like to host a full-blown Mafia game.

Whether or not you share them is up to you. Sharing lets people know your ideas (and thus support them.), but the current trend is to keep everything secret until the game starts. (Or later).

And all mafia games here are full-blown, unless you have <10 spots.

I'd need upwards of twenty for it to work properly. That seems to be the norm, though.

I have an idea for a Mafia game. Maybe

I too have an idea for a Mafia game:

BIONICLE Mafia: You Have 24 Hours, hosted by You Have 24 Hours.

Details are on my blog, You Have 24 Hours.

I'd like for it to be BIONICLE MAFIA XXIV, although if that cannot be I can always rework it into a sidegame by re-adding the slightly more complicated elements that I have so far removed. Maybe.

There was also an idea for a superfast mafia game a while back, that was planned to be super fast, I think? Could work as a side game, or a side side game if the main and side games are slow and we need to pass the time. Wasn't really mafia though, more of an inspired spin-off where everyone just outright killed each other - everyone had the ability to kill each other. No dice roll like in Hitman, and no Mafia, so yeah, more of an inspired spin-off meant to be very fast-paced to offset the tedium of lengthy games, during which the dead tend to accumulate and do nothing.  Not my idea, just something I think might have the potential to do well.

Besides that, how long has Feudal Kingdoms been running for at this point? Feels really slow. Wasn't going to say it at the time, but I was and still am really apprehensive of the whole 'cycle' deal, which to me makes the game unnecessarily slow. Seems that nearly everyone active in regards to it may be either dead or simply not caring - I could understand the latter, definitely. Kind of a vicious cycle there: people get bored, care less, nothing happens in the game for a while, people care even less. By the time the scenes does get posted, very few people care about it. Ninjago Mafia isn't the only victim of this cycle that I perceive (not saying it is there, just how I perceive it), other games appear to fall victim to it too. Very few games stay fast-paced, usually it's the ones that retain interest that do.

Also, I've noticed we've got a bit of complaints over Burnmad's game's policy of killing those who do not vote/act. Which to me isn't that at all understandable, because if I was in the host position I'd try and make you vote and act as soon as possible. I don't want you to sign up to do absolutely nothing, since that gives the impression of remaining inactive for the whole game. You don't sign up to games to do nothing, just as you don't sign up to a RPG only to never play one. Do people really have a problem with the host of a game trying to remind people to act and vote in the game they signed up to play? Killing the inactives is, in my view, a good thing for partially remedying the problem that I mentioned in the previous paragraph. 

I think a better way of keeping players active is to simply shorten the rounds. Keep each Day/Night to 24 hours; I don't think I had anyone who truly went fully inactive during either XVIII or XIX, both games in which I used the shorter time frame. 

Does this make it more stressful for the host? A little, yes. But I also expect that, if somebody wants to host, that they are also willing to set the time aside for it. There's nothing wrong with having a smaller game of 20 players if that is more manageable time-wise. 

Also, I've noticed we've got a bit of complaints over Burnmad's game's policy of killing those who do not vote/act. Which to me isn't that at all understandable, because if I was in the host position I'd try and make you vote and act as soon as possible. I don't want you to sign up to do absolutely nothing, since that gives the impression of remaining inactive for the whole game. You don't sign up to games to do nothing, just as you don't sign up to a RPG only to never play one. Do people really have a problem with the host of a game trying to remind people to act and vote in the game they signed up to play? Killing the inactives is, in my view, a good thing for partially remedying the problem that I mentioned in the previous paragraph. 

no, what we were complaining about was burnmad saying straight up you will be killed and removed from this game if you don't vote, which is something entirely different from i am taking spot 23 just so i can have spot 23 and not playing this game henceforth. if people weren't sending PMs and not voting, then yeah, that's inactivity, but that's not what burn said.

voting has always been something people skimp out on for a round or two if it doesn't suit their play strategy, and killing off players who implement that strategy (like myself) is borderline host abuse

-Tyler

Voting... voting is half of what you can do in Mafia. If you don't have a role, it's all you can do. All you can do. And that's a pretty big thing.

It's integral to the Mafia formula. I will not tolerate people that do not vote, especially if you don't have a role. Because that effectively amounts to not playing at all. When you ignore such an important part of the game, I will perceive that as not playing. Besides, 'host abuse'? That's a ridiculous statement. They're the host. It is their game, their rules. You signed up to play their game, you know what Mafia entails. You do not sign up not to play and ignore what amounts of half, if not more than half for quite a lot, of the game's mechanics.