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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:10:52 UTC
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  • You know, I think it might be fun to have an occasional "Blindfolded-Potluck" (for want of a better term) Mafia game, where the particular roles, twists, and mechanics are recycled from previous games, with no particular thematic logic or story logic, and kept secret until they come into play. Perhaps it could even have strange remixes of concepts, such as Personality Crisis with By the Numbers (in which certain players switch numbers,) etc.
     

    This could help to ease the strain of constant innovation for Mafia hosts.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:14:43 UTC
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  • You know, I think it might be fun to have an occasional "Blindfolded-Potluck" (for want of a better term) Mafia game, where the particular roles, twists, and mechanics are recycled from previous games, with no particular thematic logic or story logic, and kept secret until they come into play. Perhaps it could even have strange remixes of concepts, such as Personality Crisis with By the Numbers (in which certain players switch numbers,) etc.

     

    This could help to ease the strain of constant innovation for Mafia hosts.

     

    What you call "constant innovation" I call "a lot of the time just gimmicks".

     

    And I would definitely count XIX in the latter at the moment. XVIII doesn't really fit either since it just re-used a concept in its exact form.

     

    Also the Numbers concept is so friggin' complex to deal with as a host can we not think about players swapping roles AND numbers in the same game oh god i'm gonna go cry now ok ;__;

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:16:13 UTC
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  • By The Numbers + Dead Sea + V: TInker Tailor

     

    Two Mafia Groups duking it out while everyone has a number and the numbers get reshuffled every day.

     

    Maybe the roles would be tied to the numbers themselves though.

     

    ...

     

    Sounds like heck to host xD

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:21:26 UTC
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    You know, I think it might be fun to have an occasional "Blindfolded-Potluck" (for want of a better term) Mafia game, where the particular roles, twists, and mechanics are recycled from previous games, with no particular thematic logic or story logic, and kept secret until they come into play. Perhaps it could even have strange remixes of concepts, such as Personality Crisis with By the Numbers (in which certain players switch numbers,) etc.

     

    This could help to ease the strain of constant innovation for Mafia hosts.

     

    What you call "constant innovation" I call "a lot of the time just gimmicks".

     

    And I would definitely count XIX in the latter at the moment. XVIII doesn't really fit either since it just re-used a concept in its exact form.

     

    Also the Numbers concept is so friggin' complex to deal with as a host can we not think about players swapping roles AND numbers in the same game oh god i'm gonna go cry now ok ;__;

     

    Even gimmicks require some innovation to produce. For better or for worse, BZPower Mafia is (or so it seems to a newcomer like me) becoming more experimental. I like experiments, but I also think it would be nice to sit back and not have to worry about producing or grasping a new concept, every once in a while.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:26:35 UTC
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  • It's definitely becoming more experimental, I'll agree with that.

    I think it depends on which twists and concepts we're reusing; while some might be fine with the stuff they introduce being used by others, there are certain concepts of mine as a host that I'd rather stay with me, unless I happen to give someone else permission to use them. The By the Numbers concept is chief among those; conversely, I don't care if people use stuff like the Pyro. We can always use more Pyro.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:27:20 UTC
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  • Even gimmicks require some innovation to produce. For better or for worse, BZPower Mafia is (or so it seems to a newcomer like me) becoming more experimental. I like experiments, but I also think it would be nice to sit back and not have to worry about producing or grasping a new concept, every once in a while.

    Simple Mafia games are always fun.

    Of course, XX isn't going to be exactly "simple" (nor incredibly confusing), but it won't be as complex as some games, or have roles as complex as some games.

    It's less complex than Two For All was, and that makes me happy.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:31:55 UTC
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  • ...if anyone's actually really interested in a Comedic Relief game that probably just takes a bunch of stuff from other games, smashes it together and proceeds to poke fun at everything and anything

    my brain may or may not be developing that

    Zakaro

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:32:13 UTC
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  • To be fair, Voltex, you didn't invent thePyro, you just rebranded the Serial Killer/Psychopath/WHATEVER, so =p

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:35:08 UTC
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  • To be fair, Voltex, you didn't invent thePyro, you just rebranded the Serial Killer/Psychopath/WHATEVER, so =p

     

    Definitely true =P

     

    Now that I think about it, the By the Numbers thing is really all that I'd want people to ask me about I think? I'm probably forgetting about something, but I feel like most gimmicks and innovations that have come from me are either things I'm fine with others using, didn't work at all, are things that nobody is really interested in re-purposing, or simply can't be done again (like the idea of the Darkest Days Trilogy).

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:51:43 UTC
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  • not interested in a Comedic Relief game yet?

    what if i told you the title would be 

    Bionicle Mafia Z:  By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda-Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin

     

    ..interested now?

     

    Zakaro

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:53:52 UTC
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  • not interested in a Comedic Relief game yet?

    what if i told you the title would be 

    Bionicle Mafia Z:  By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda-Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin

     

    ..interested now?

     

    Zakaro

    I love this.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 22:54:43 UTC
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  • not interested in a Comedic Relief game yet?

    what if i told you the title would be 

    Bionicle Mafia Z:  By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda-Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin

     

    ..interested now?

     

    Zakaro

     

    I can guarantee you that BZPower will cut that title off around halfway through "Frozen" if you're lucky

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 23:00:06 UTC
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  • not interested in a Comedic Relief game yet?

    what if i told you the title would be 

    Bionicle Mafia Z:  By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda-Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin

     

    ..interested now?

     

    Zakaro

    I'm so interested I...

     

    I...

     

    I'm just really dang interested. 10/10 would play. 

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 23:03:51 UTC
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  • not interested in a Comedic Relief game yet?

    what if i told you the title would be 

    Bionicle Mafia Z:  By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda-Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin

     

    ..interested now?

     

    Zakaro

    I don't know whether I should be fascinated or terrified.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 23:46:46 UTC
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  • not interested in a Comedic Relief game yet?

    what if i told you the title would be 

    Bionicle Mafia Z:  By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda-Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin

     

    ..interested now?

     

    Zakaro

    doit.gif

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 23:48:01 UTC
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  • I am  very interested in Zakaro's idea. I would not be opposed to seeing it fully realised and its parody of Mafia. Of course, it'll probably end up having the most serious village ever, which figures.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 23:52:40 UTC
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  • I am  very interested in Zakaro's idea. I would not be opposed to seeing it fully realised and its parody of Mafia. Of course, it'll probably end up having the most serious village ever, which figures.

    I can assure you, in that game I will do my best to cause as much bloodshed as possible instead of being...slightly serious.

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 23:57:14 UTC
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  • I am  very interested in Zakaro's idea. I would not be opposed to seeing it fully realised and its parody of Mafia. Of course, it'll probably end up having the most serious village ever, which figures.

     

    But mafia is such srs bzns

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  • Posted 2014-11-14 23:58:59 UTC
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    I am  very interested in Zakaro's idea. I would not be opposed to seeing it fully realised and its parody of Mafia. Of course, it'll probably end up having the most serious village ever, which figures.

     

    But mafia is such srs bzns

     

    the most srs

    people die there4 srs. i mean it's not like mafia games have utterly ridiculous deaths or anything hahahahahahah

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 00:07:42 UTC
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  • Every single time we lynch someone in Mafia, it turns out they've been lynched in real life because BZPower is now haunted by the ghost of BIONICLE Generation One (because I said so).

     

    (When and if we do go through with this you just know Taka's always going to be innocent if suspected and guilty if not suspected and that people will lynch Shadowhawk/ShadowVezon et cetera because they have shadow in their names and that means they're evil, apparently)

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 00:14:38 UTC
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  • not interested in a Comedic Relief game yet?

    what if i told you the title would be 

    Bionicle Mafia Z:  By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda-Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin

     

    ..interested now?

     

    Zakaro

     

    I don't know whether I should be fascinated or terrified.

     

    Both, obviously. =P

     

    - :burnmad:

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 01:12:00 UTC
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  • well then, I suppose I'll launch Bionicle Mafia Z: Comedic Relief (Subtitled in the topic as By The Gritty Darkest Boogaloo Constant Numbers 2 of the Frozen Carnival Tower of the Shadow Sea Lords (AKA Gallow, Pyro, Nightmare, Money) and totally not The Four Ruins of Karda Nui's Southern Mirror Crisis Two: Requiem of Spooky Champions and Unfinished Busin ) once Damage Control wraps up.

    i mean

    if nobody minds lol

    Zakaro

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 01:36:07 UTC
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  • why does it have a "Z" in the title

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 01:57:18 UTC
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  • why does it have a "Z" in the title

    Why not?

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 03:04:06 UTC
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  • allthatwelost2.jpg

     

    Click the link above to read All That We've Lost - which can also be referred to as By the Numbers 3. :)

     

    "Two Matoran have been sent plunging through one's darkest memories on a quest to stop Makuta from achieving his ultimate goal. The journey carries with it no hope of victory, nor a chance at escape; all it promises is that they shall lose everything."

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 12:55:36 UTC
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  • Maaan, I knew it was going to be a story.

    Don't get me wrong, I like your writing, but everything around here is more fun when it's interactive. :P

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 13:39:16 UTC
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  • Sadly I missed out on everything related to this - but it's totally awesome. :3

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  • Posted 2014-11-15 17:40:22 UTC
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  • Aaaand Part 2 for those of you who aren't spoilsports like Chro

     

    TBH the main reason I wrote this story was because if I ever actually host a By the Numbers 3 it won't be for a long, loooooong time, and by that point I'll want it to have a self-contained story instead of continuing the story from By the Numbers 2. And this story idea just wouldn't leave my head, so yeah.

     

    All the Mafia stuff all the time

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 17:17:06 UTC
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  • Question for y'all with regards to claiming games, and concepts in general. What games are claimed, exactly, assuming any in the main series are, because I think I'd wanna grab #23 for the one I've cooked up: Bionicle Mafia: Red Sea, potentially one of the largest games to date due to the concept I have planned for it.

     

    Assuming anyone will let me host another game :P

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 17:18:31 UTC
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  • Question for y'all with regards to claiming games, and concepts in general. What games are claimed, exactly, assuming any in the main series are, because I think I'd wanna grab #23 for the one I've cooked up: Bionicle Mafia: Red Sea, potentially one of the largest games to date due to the concept I have planned for it.

     

    Assuming anyone will let me host another game :P

    Only one claimed right now, as far as I know, is XX

    Which I'm hosting.

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 17:22:23 UTC
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  • Oh, well, of course you're hosting XX. I shouldn't be surprised by that at all, in retrospect.

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 17:41:11 UTC
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  • I have all doubles and triples.

     

    Actually just #22 at the moment, but they wouldn't let me claim any later than that. >o>

     

    - :burnmad:

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 17:52:48 UTC
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  • I have L and ML, assuming we get that far

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 17:56:00 UTC
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  • that people will lynch ShadowVezon because they have shadow in their names and that means they're evil, apparently)

    Who says I'm not evil? It's a matter of which evil.

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 17:56:26 UTC
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  • Oh, well, of course you're hosting XX. I shouldn't be surprised by that at all, in retrospect.

    Indeed.

    Especially since I said I wanted to host XX back when X was wrapping up...but that was moreso "I want to do this if no one else will" than "I call this and no one else can".

    and no one else has said they wanted to host XX.

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 18:44:52 UTC
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  • I have all doubles and triples.

     

    Actually just #22 at the moment, but they wouldn't let me claim any later than that. >o>

     

    - :burnmad:

     

    You don't get to host XXII until the ending to XVII is posted

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 18:45:56 UTC
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    I have all doubles and triples.

     

    Actually just #22 at the moment, but they wouldn't let me claim any later than that. >o>

     

    - :burnmad:

     

    You don't get to host XXII until the ending to XVII is posted

     

    If it happens.

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 18:48:56 UTC
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    I have all doubles and triples.

     

    Actually just #22 at the moment, but they wouldn't let me claim any later than that. >o>

     

    - :burnmad:

     

    You don't get to host XXII until the ending to XVII is posted

     

    And he better fix it

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 19:13:54 UTC
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  • By that same logic I don't deserve to host a Hitman game til I finish Worldshaker. Hope you guys can keep up the series in the meantime. :P

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  • Posted 2014-11-18 19:21:01 UTC
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  • By that same logic I don't deserve to host a Hitman game til I finish Worldshaker. Hope you guys can keep up the series in the meantime. :P

     

    And you would be correct.

     

    If someone is going to host, and then not bother finishing the game while remaining active as a player, I don't want them to host another game until the first has been finished. And if the next game isn't completed either... well, I don't expect we'll get to that point.

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